Spoilers for the Lanterns episodes and Episode 4 preview discussed in our livestream.
Ladies and gentlemen, John Stewart’s Green Lantern origin has everybody arguing. The parents. The apple. The conversations about race. Hal Jordan acting like the king of buttholes. We had plenty to get into on Lords of the Livestream.
My Lanterns Episode 3 reaction comes down to this: some of those family conversations felt real to me, the dangerous parenting was a problem, and the mystery still has my attention. I also agree that this show needs more Green Lantern action. I want to see where the story is going, but at some point, those rings need to get some work in.
I sat down with Danny Graham and Nzo to talk about all of it. And if you think three brothers getting together means we’re going to agree on everything, you haven’t watched this show.
Why Are John Stewart’s Parents Causing So Much Controversy?
The parents’ attempts to prepare John to become a Green Lantern are at the center of our Episode 3 debate. There’s a difference between warning your child about the world and deliberately putting that child in danger.
I recognized the conversations about having to work harder and being judged because of your skin color. I heard those kinds of talks growing up. That part didn’t make me throw my hands up and say the entire show was terrible.
But everything went downhill for me when they put that apple on his head.
Shooting at your child to prove something about fear? Come on, man. That’s where I had a problem. Danny also rejected leaving a child in a dangerous neighborhood and simply hoping he makes it home safely.
We could understand the parents wanting John to be prepared. We did not have to agree with the way they went about it.
That’s why the thumbnail asks, “COWARD OR BAD PARENTING?!” If the adults are creating the danger, we need to look at their decisions before we start judging the child.
The Batman and Robin Comparison Made Me Think
Nzo brought up something during this discussion that caught my attention: Batman takes Robin into dangerous situations, too.
I had been trying to think of a superhero comparison, and he put that one right on the table. A grown man bringing a young sidekick into fights with dangerous criminals raises its own questions about responsibility.
Danny also brought up the extreme treatment of children depicted in 300. The point of those comparisons was to ask how audiences react to dangerous training in different fictional settings.
Are we judging every story by the same standard? What makes us accept something as part of a superhero world in one case and reject it in another?
That was worth discussing. It still didn’t make me like the apple scene. A comparison can challenge how we think without making the parents’ behavior okay.
For me, the story has to give that behavior meaning. If these parents are hurting John while thinking they’re helping him, I want to understand what that does to him. Give me the consequences of that upbringing.
Lanterns’ White Privilege Dialogue: Some of These Talks Are Familiar
Danny explained his reaction through his own family. He talked about having a blended family and why he feels certain conversations are necessary with some of his children and grandchildren.
That was his experience, and I understood where he was coming from.
I also pointed out that we were discussing different periods in John’s life. The setting of a childhood scene matters when you’re trying to understand what his parents are thinking and what they fear.
When I was little, I heard conversations about how the world might treat me. I’m not going to pretend those talks didn’t happen because somebody else is tired of hearing about the subject.
At the same time, people have different experiences. My household doesn’t tell you everything about every Black family. Danny’s family doesn’t either. We were explaining why parts of this dialogue connected with us.
Nzo’s point was that a conversation failing to relate to you personally does not automatically make it bad writing. I agreed with that. You can question the pacing, delivery, or how a scene fits the story. But the existence of that conversation wasn’t the problem for me.
The parents’ dangerous choices were a separate issue, and we talked about those, too.
John Stewart vs. Hal Jordan: Why Is Hal Acting Like This?
Hal Jordan’s attitude is another reason this show has people heated. The way he speaks to John and treats him gives us plenty to question.
Nzo offered one explanation: Hal might resent being replaced. If you think somebody has brought in the person who is going to take your job, you might have an attitude about it.
That interpretation makes sense as a possibility. But I’m also wondering whether the Guardians know something about Hal that John doesn’t.
Why does it feel like John is being positioned against him? Is Hal picking up on that? Are we watching somebody become more dangerous, or somebody react to a plan happening behind his back?
We also discussed a comic panel in which a Black man challenges Hal about the people he has helped and the people he has overlooked. Our conversation connected that criticism to the way we were reading the show. That is an interpretation of the material, and viewers can debate it.
I want the series to explain its version of Hal through the story. If his behavior is part of a larger change, show me how that change works. Make the pieces connect.
The Guardians’ Plan Is What Keeps Me Watching
I said it during the stream: I’m not calling Lanterns the greatest show of all time, and I’m not calling it trash. I’m following this journey to see where it takes me.
The Guardians are a big reason why.
I’m getting suspicious vibes from them. The way we discussed John’s position made me wonder whether he’s being prepared for a purpose he doesn’t fully understand.
Then there’s the kidnapping mystery. Who is involved? What are they hiding? Could one of the people we’re watching be something other than what they appear to be?
That’s the Scooby-Doo mystery part I keep talking about. I like looking at the characters and wondering which one has the information that changes everything.
Danny was also invested. Nzo was more frustrated with the pace, but even he wasn’t saying the whole thing was horrible. He wanted more of the superhero side to go with the mystery.
That’s a fair conversation to have after the episodes we discussed. Interest in the answers and frustration with the wait can exist together.
My Episode 4 Preview Reaction: Are John and Hal Heading for a Fight?
The Episode 4 preview we watched made me think even more strongly that John Stewart and Hal Jordan could end up fighting.
The language about John being a backup or contingency plan stood out. So did the threatening dialogue. Put that beside the tension we had already been discussing, and I could see the story heading toward a confrontation.
That was our prediction, not a confirmed ending.
The panel also discussed a possible Parallax direction for Hal. I floated the idea that he might link up with Sinestro and move against the Guardians, given the mentor connection we were talking about.
There are several ways those pieces could fit. Maybe the Guardians understand the danger. Maybe they’re creating a different problem with their solution. Maybe John is caught between people who all think they know what’s best.
I want the show to earn that conflict. If we get John Stewart vs. Hal Jordan, give us a reason that makes the fight matter beyond two characters throwing punches.
Manhunters, Red Lanterns, and the Title Colors
We threw around Manhunter and Red Lantern possibilities during the livestream. I was also paying attention to the title colors we discussed and wondering whether they might point toward more than one Lantern group.
The name is Lanterns. Naturally, that had us asking how far the show might go beyond the green rings.
Those are clues we were interpreting and theories we were building. They don’t confirm a hidden identity, a particular villain, or a future transformation.
But this is the kind of speculation I enjoy. Give us something to notice. Let us debate it. Then deliver an answer that makes us look back and say, “Okay, that’s why they showed us that.”
Lanterns Needs More Green Lantern Action
Nzo kept coming back to a simple complaint: he wanted more Green Lantern stuff.
I get it. We’re watching a series built around these characters, and we want to see their powers used. The mystery can be interesting while the action still feels too light.
Danny agreed the show could use more of that, even though the story held his attention. I thought the slow build might be preparing us for bigger action later.
That’s my expectation, though. We still have to see whether it delivers.
We compared it to the frustration of watching superhero television spend a long time building toward the superhero part. A strong finish can help, but the journey needs something for the audience along the way.
I’m fine with getting to know John and Hal. I’m fine with a mystery. I also want a reason to remember that these men have power rings.
Is the 2011 Green Lantern Movie Suddenly Better?
I brought up Ryan Reynolds’ Green Lantern movie because I wanted to challenge the conversation about what fans want from an adaptation.
That movie gave audiences a lot of recognizable Green Lantern imagery and characters. Now we’re discussing a very different approach, and people are saying they want the earlier version back.
Nzo pushed back on my comparison. He had problems with the earlier movie’s writing, its version of Parallax, and how Reynolds’ style fit Hal Jordan. He wasn’t about to call that movie great just because he wanted more action from this series.
We did have praise for the earlier film’s Sinestro look. But liking a character’s design doesn’t settle whether the whole movie works.
That discussion brought us back to the same question: can Lanterns give us both the mystery and the superhero experience? I don’t think wanting those things together is unreasonable.
Aaron Pierre Is Working for Me as John Stewart
One thing I felt good about was Aaron Pierre’s performance.
When we rated him during the stream, I gave him an eight out of ten. Danny also gave him an eight. I think he has more to offer as the story develops.
I admitted that my first reaction to the casting had focused too much on whether he matched the exact image of John Stewart I had in my head. Nzo challenged that, and I gave him credit for it.
Watching the performance matters. Can this actor carry the role? Am I buying him as this character?
So far, Aaron Pierre is doing the work for me. My problems with the parents’ decisions and my questions about the pacing don’t take that away from him.
More From Lords of the Livestream: DC, Wonder Woman, and Casting Rumors
We also got into the wider DC conversation. I criticized parts of Gal Gadot’s acting, while Danny defended what he enjoyed about her as Wonder Woman. Being a Snyder fan doesn’t mean I’m going to praise every performance, and Danny wasn’t about to change his mind because I played a clip.
When the discussion moved to DC’s direction, I argued for getting Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman right. Nzo and I also disagreed about whether bringing Zack Snyder back would be the answer. Another reboot was something we both questioned.
We discussed reports and rumors involving Henry Cavill as Magneto or Aegon the Conqueror, Cody Rhodes as Havok, and a possible Hayden Christensen Darth Vader film. Those were subjects for speculation on the stream, not casting confirmations from us.
The Street Fighter footage gave us a rare moment of agreement: we liked what we saw. Then we went right back to arguing about everything from The Penguin to Game of Thrones and The Lord of the Rings.
Nzo’s opinions had me ready to end the show early. Danny wasn’t helping either. That’s Lords of the Livestream for you.
My Verdict: Question the Parents, but Let the Story Play Out
I’m still interested in Lanterns after Episode 3. The family conversations gave us something real to debate, the training gave me something to criticize, and the Guardians gave me more reasons to be suspicious.
I want more action. I want John’s upbringing to matter to who he becomes. And I want the show to explain why Hal is acting this way and what the Guardians are planning.
I’m not handing it a trophy yet. I’m watching to see whether the payoff matches the setup.
Watch the full Lords of the Livestream discussion with me, Danny Graham of The Road to Wisdom, and Nzo of Biggaford Entertainment. Then get in the comments and tell me: were John Stewart’s parents preparing a hero or putting their son through something he’ll have to overcome? And did Nzo’s Batman-and-Robin comparison change how you looked at it?
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Questions About Our Lanterns Episode 3 Review
Why does Fatal Jay criticize John Stewart’s parents?
I object to the dangerous training, especially the apple-shooting scene. I understand wanting to prepare a child for the world, but I don’t approve of putting that child in danger to prove he is fearless.
Does Fatal Jay think the racial dialogue ruins Lanterns?
No. Some of those conversations reminded me of talks I heard growing up. I judge that dialogue separately from the dangerous parenting and the amount of superhero action.
Is John Stewart going to fight Hal Jordan?
That was our theory after discussing the episodes and watching the Episode 4 preview. We did not establish it as a confirmed outcome.
What did Fatal Jay rate Aaron Pierre as John Stewart?
I gave his performance an eight out of ten during this livestream and said I thought he had more to offer as the story continued.
Who appears on this Lords of the Livestream discussion?
Fatal Jay hosts the conversation with Danny Graham of The Road to Wisdom and Nzo of Biggaford Entertainment. We share some opinions and disagree on others.
